If you want them so bad, find them.Originally Posted by [A
There are many Islamic terrorist groups, a little googling will help you find the information you need.
People made Gods to fill the void of not understanding things. There is no god.Originally Posted by [A
That's the argument you're going to use?Originally Posted by [A
Where did god come from? If your answer is something along the lines of "he just exists", I can use that same argument for where the universe came from, though science would go more in-depth than that using actual facts instead of looking at an ancient book that was written by people that didn't know where the sun went at night.
Probably just stopped watching it because you don't like questioning your faith.Originally Posted by [A
No, that's your morals and religious beliefs clashing. To make up for it, you try to interpret it in a different way to make it easier for you.Originally Posted by [A
Yeah I mean after all those years of them evoluting and suicide bombing, their bodies must be pretty prone to explosions. Their skin must be pretty tough.
That's a joke
There's also non-Islamic terrorist groups, Just like the Mafia...
You can google it just type in Terrorist groups in America, Europe and you can search your country.
If we took ISIS as an Islamic terrorist group (and they are not considered Muslims, Even Allah will punish them) their number of members is from 200K to 300K
and that number isn't anything for the Muslims, Islam has 1.6 billion adherents in 2010
and if they are Muslims (BUT THEY AREN'T), would you tell me that all Christians are good and kind, all Americans or Australians are good and kind, of course not
The same goes for Islam and any religion + These fucked up groups are not considered Muslims and Allah didn't command us to do what they are doing...
The question you asked is completely wrong because God weren't made.
and it's just like you are asking What's the smell of the blue color?!
The question itself is wrong because the blue color is not tapped under the "Things that have smells"
The same for god, god is not a thing that is made and no one has made him, he just exist.
You will ask and how can I know this ?
We all know that there's nothing coming from no where, and that's leads us it's impossible that a something didn't exist in the past made what there is in the present and this proves that there was someone who always exists and that is God.
No, I've stopped it for the reason I said and it's : He don't know the both language, the translate is not completely right and he must read the Quraan to discuss the Islam, Quraan or Allah....
Not just watching some photos in the social media.
No, It's not my translation or my beliefs, it's the Quraan I didn't change it, next time go to an English website that translated the Quraan before saying that.
I didn't reply to your post because the quotes had a problem and no notifications were popped-up in my profile
If you have any other questions about god or you want to know some proves on somethings, I will be happy to talk with you, make sure you mention me in the post.
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Never said there weren't.Originally Posted by [A
It doesn't matter how you and others feel about them; they are Muslims. There are a lot of radical Islamists, not all of them are a part of terrorist groups.Originally Posted by [A
They are and obviously not. Nice strawman.Originally Posted by [A
The same logic could be applied to the universe.Originally Posted by [A
No, it's not. It's like asking do colours exist and how they exist, which has a logical answer with evidence to back it up.
That answer was wrong because the universe is not under the category of "being made".Originally Posted by [A
The universe just exists, and there is no creator. Feel free to prove me wrong with real evidence.
So, where did God come from? I still haven't had that answered.Originally Posted by [A
The universe didn't just show up. There are many theories about how the universe came to be that are backed up with actual scientific evidence. There is no proof of a divine creator; there is just a book made by regular people that preach bullshit.
He acknowledges that the translation of the quote is not entirely accurate, perhaps you should watch the video before criticising it.Originally Posted by [A
The breakdown of what they mean is you turning it into what your morals tell you it should mean, not what it means.Originally Posted by [A
All good.Originally Posted by [A
I'm open to the belief of God; there's only one, simple thing that is stopping me from dropping to my knees (metaphorically speaking) and following the God's will; evidence that one exists. Why would a God who wants people to follow them allow themselves to be hidden completely?
Why would they allow people to follow religions they were raised in? If a particular religion is pressured onto you as a child, it's not very likely that you will change your beliefs later in life. It's not a person's fault if they believe in a religion that was forced on them at a young age, it's insane that an all-knowing creator would send a person to hell for something that wasn't in their control very much.
If you can prove God exists and somehow demonstrate that it is your God and not one of the other 2000~ that supposedly exist, I will believe in that religion and follow it without hesitation.
EDIT: I realised why you aren't getting notifications, your name confuses the quoting system. @[A]CE
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ISIS LOL such a googler bro u know what ISIS attacked 4 Islamic cities in 1 week and u say they bomb u? Get a brain over 250+ people dead
u made up a thinking of not understanding how this world was made... Islam is a true religion...
again cancer replies lol u are tryna say the world made it self? were u made yourself? u had parents such is the case of the world. God made 7 heavens and we are a tiny speck in it it takes about 500 years to get to another heaven we dont know at what speed... u made ur self still lol
other things what @[A]CE said about humanities killing is true bro
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What about it?
Prove (with testable evidence) why God is real and Islam is the true one.
You just proved how uneducated you are when it comes to scientific theories about how the universe came to existence.
Again, I can use your argument against you; are you saying the creator of all created itself? God must have had parents, right? If you can come to the conclusion that God just exists, your argument above is useless.
if there was a bombing at your house and i said what about it? lol
Your question uses the word testable. Do you mean under laboratory conditions? If so, you make yourself into your own god.
Since Allah is spirit, he cannot be seen by men. As he himself says, "No man may see me and live." He describes himself as having such an abundance of dynamic energy as to create the universe and keep in in motion.
He can only be observed by what he has done. Today many people close their eyes, stop up their ears and turn off their minds to what they see here and feel. They ignore the fundamental laws which govern creation and claim everything originated out of nothing.
But there is one thing you can analyze to your hearts content and never explain satisfactorily. And yet it is all around you. You can see it. Feel it. Pinch it. Hear it. Smell it. And yet you cannot test it or even understand how it came to be. It is impossible to make in a lab. What is it? What is it that the most knowledgeable researchers scientists and experimenters hit and bounce?
Life. And God is the source. Have fun trying to explain life. No one can. But you can modify and manipulate living things. Understand it? No.
Psalm 36:9 God is the source of life
Well believing in the unseen is the part of faith angels/jinns/God include in it
well the secret about Gods existence will be revealed on the day of judgement
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@Cohen i will be held accountable for what i have explained to you
Allah warns every Muslim against speaking without knowledge, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And follow not (O man, i.e., say not, or do not, or witness not) that of which you have no knowledge. Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned (by Allah)”
[al-Israa’ 17:36]
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@Cohen
Those who have knowledge are the quickest of people to understand the truth and believe in it:
“And that those who have been given knowledge may know that it (this Qur’aan) is the truth from your Lord, so that they may believe therein, and their hearts may submit to it with humility”
[al-Hajj 22:54 – interpretation of the meaning]
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@Cohen is there is a prob with ur notifications i think u dont get em
I said "what about it?" because it didn't have much to do with what we were talking about. They are a religious extremist group, I never said they didn't attack certain places/people.
If your god is real, he would show himself or give a way to prove his existence.
Allah said this? Prove your god said this and it could add something to the empty pile of proof that god exists.
If your god is real, it allows rape, murder, many different types of cancer, disease and babies being born dead. If your god exists, it is a sadistic fuck.
I could pull a similar quote from another religious text, it doesn't make it true. Quotes from your religious text mean nothing to me and are not an argument.
Being a blind moron is also a part of faith.
No, it won't. Judgement day is a fairytale you blindly believe.
Last edited by Cohen; 07-08-2016 at 07:09 AM.
well ISIS is un-islamic and anti-islamic from the recent attacks on 4 cities
who would give u a book and a test of same subject? same is with the God
I told you this world is a test.... test of ur will power..the people who rape, murders etc will be in hell lol God is fair, it is His characteristics
its a verse whatever ur say idc cuz ur ignorant
this is enough for u
who is moron? we will see on day of judgement when u will be in 1 of the losers
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leave graphics now u will revert the topic lol bought this shit video xD
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@Cohen this video is best reply to you bro hope u watch it
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I've already watched it before I comment again and I know what I'm saying.
That's why god gave us brains...
To use them to think that he made this brains that we think with, do tasks with and see his great creations.
would a Mountain make it self ?
For the other things you said about not believing in god or you need proofs, I'm ready to answer your questions...
Just specify it, 1: Question number one, 2: Question number two, and so...
ISIS is not an Islamic group, It doesn't even do what god said to us, they think that raping is allowed and in fact it's one of the biggest faults you can do in Islam, same goes for killing people and you may go to the hell just by killing one person that didn't do anything.
You bro said that you will not believe in god because some religions said that there is a god, but if you have the belief but have some doubts, we can get you the information you need, but if you don't want to believe in god then you will not believe in him because you are not able to hear from other or ask others.
If the teacher says : 2 + 2 = 4 any you think it's 5 and don't want to hear the teacher to explain you then you will think 2 + 2 = 5 .
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If something is forced on you as a child you most likely will not change your beliefs later in life. Watch the video below to understand.Originally Posted by [A
They don't make themselves. They form from tectonic plates below the surface of the earth shifting over time. If you'd like to learn about how mountains form, continents move and other very interesting things I'm sure there'd be a video on youtube explaining it in detail. Your ignorance is obvious.Originally Posted by [A
I'm not asking a question, I'm making a statement. Prove it your god exists without referring to your holy text or pleading to ignorance.Originally Posted by [A
It is allowed, some of the earliest Muslims who followed the Quran pillaged, raped, took slaves etc. Though, I'm somewhat glad Muslims are realising that those things are bad.Originally Posted by [A
I'm open to believing in God, I just need proof. Even if I did believe in God, you have no proof that the God that is the "true God".Originally Posted by [A
I'm open to learning, if I thought something and a teacher said I was wrong, I'd be open to learning the new information. The teacher would have to prove their claim, just like I expect religious people to prove the claim that God exists.Originally Posted by [A