[Discussion] AI & VI

[Alen]

Many advances in technologies would not have happened if the inventors had stayed within their "little world" =)

Think back to the 1900s, who would have ever thought that a little match box-like thing could enable us to communicate with anyone on the earth (and beyond)?

I don't see how that relates to changing the definition of intelligent. Pushing boundaries != changing definitions

[freedompeace]

I don't see how that relates to changing the definition of intelligent. Pushing boundaries != changing definitions

What is the definition of intelligent, and is it accurate?

[Alen]

What is the definition of intelligent, and is it accurate?

It's made to suit biological organisms, if that's what you're getting at

[why06]

Think back to the 1900s, who would have ever thought that a little match box-like thing could enable us to communicate with anyone on the earth (and beyond)?

Ahhh... you mean the cellular phone:


FYI: the 1900's was only a decade ago, and we had phones.

To the main argument, I think this argument has boiled down to one thing. What is intelligence, and how to prove it. Personally I feel human intelligence is only one level of many levels of intelligence. ant's have intelligence too. So I don't think the question is what is intelligence, but the amount of intelligence needed to do a certain task. Now rather that intelligence would make you human and having the same rights as human is a different idea. Here's where you and I differ @Coeus. I don't think human status and therefore human rights are dependent specifically on intelligence. So its not a big deal to me if machines become more intelligent. And that includes even the highest levels of intelligence such as self-awareness, and consciousness.

And lol, this conversation got derailed so bad, its been a long time since I've had a discussion like this. Reminds me of my time on SDC.

EDIT: Sweet I just leveled up.

[Hell_Demon]

And lol, this conversation got derailed so bad, its been a long time since I've had a discussion like this. Reminds me of my time on SDC.

Last time we had one of these on here was with @B1ackAnge1
But he vanished once again D:

[B1ackAnge1]

Im here - just got sidetracked by a unexpected project that fell into my lap.

[Alen]

To the main argument, I think this argument has boiled down to one thing. What is intelligence, and how to prove it. Personally I feel human intelligence is only one level of many levels of intelligence. ant's have intelligence too. So I don't think the question is what is intelligence, but the amount of intelligence needed to do a certain task. Now rather that intelligence would make you human and having the same rights as human is a different idea. Here's where you and I differ @Coeus. I don't think human status and therefore human rights are dependent specifically on intelligence. So its not a big deal to me if machines become more intelligent. And that includes even the highest levels of intelligence such as self-awareness, and consciousness.

I'm not saying that this status of humans is dependent on intelligence either, because imo self-awareness != intelligence

But yeah, epic topic hijacking