Codex Sinaiticus: The breakdown

Why the false claims against me?

1- I said Jesus isn't God, i did not say the codex sinaiticus doesn't talk about "the son" because lots of prophets are called son of God in the codex.

2- No immaculate conceptions? ...I'm Muslim, i believe Jesus was born off a virgin, so again why this claim against me?

3- I said Jesus was not killed, Im a Muslim i believe he was crucified -.-, show me where it says he died, like king james version does.

3- your only valid point about me. BUT

The bible was written after Jesus going up to heaven, so the people who write it could have believed it was truly Jesus that died as many Christians did. The Quran was sent down by angel Gabriel and was not written by man like the bible was, read this.

"“They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but they thought they did.” (Quran 4:156) “God lifted him up to His presence. God is Almighty, All-Wise” (Quran 4:157)


[Please make valid points about what i say or atleast qoute it, not benign to just make things up :/]

Man,that's hellenistic koine(ελληνιστική κοινή) I think.
how can you read that stuff without a headache? I can't,and I'm Greek

Excelent translation.Truly excelent.
Going to read all that I can until I get a headache

smoke em up

First off, why would I make this thread if you didn't make any of these claims. I can personally go through every one of these threads, and find where you made the claims.
If they are edited within this day by you,
that really just incriminates you.

Secondly..are you kidding me?
I can show you in multiple passages where it describes his death.

Like how the Roman soldier speared Christ,in the rib
but only blood and water flowed,
thus proving the prophecy that not a bone in his body would be broken..even in death.

The Angel that came down from heaven to take Jesus's body, which a Roman soldier and both Mary's witnessed. The Angel told both Mary's To meet The RESURRECTED Jesus in Galilee, and they both witnessed him.

You really need to read the bible before making claims against it.
and just stop believing every Muslim on every website that speaks against Christianity.

I would also like to make this point.
There is over 140 pages of preserved New Testament that dates back to 200 AD.
It is word for word accurate to the NT scriptures we have today.
These fragments of NT predate the codex over 200 years..
But because it is not in it's entireity it is not considered a Bible.
The Codex is looked upon the same way..
though it is very old and well preserved,
you will see that there are parts missing,
some pieces in the OT and NT are either fragmented or the words are faded.

1- Go ahead bro look up where i said these qoutes, i wont edit a single post from now till next month, and we will see.

2- When i said Jesus didn't die i didnt use the codex sinaiticus so fail there.

3- i listen to people on the e-net? hah ok bro.

4- prove this to me the bible isn't edited by man.

=will be off for 3hrs=

Get off this thread please nuff trolling.

Quran wasn't "made" like the bible, it was sent down.

Im in search of a bible which is in Aramaic and it will take a while but ill translate it to hebrew, and compare it with the bible, i will find many flaws.

4th century codex sinaitucus
5th century codex alexandrian [4got name] and in 1 century both are completely different. bible got HAxED :/

1. I will.
2. It's called the codex Vaticanus,and again you're wrong.
It's not completely different.

Bottom line is this.
Both the Bible, and Qur'ran are preserverd word.
You telling me to prove that man didn't edit the Bible,
is like me saying: "Prove to me that Gabriel gave Islam the Qur'ran."
It isn't possible, we use mostly history,documentation, speculation, and blind faith.

The only possible argument about the Bible being edited is
the ommission of the apocrophya.
These are better known as the Dead Sea Scrolls..
Funny thing is these are OT scriptures that have been disputed.
Some of the earliest Churches in Greece and Jerusalem discredited them as being non relevant to the word of God.
There is even a story in the book of Tobit which describes a Jealous Demon that kills men that try to marry a human female that the Demon was in love with. First of all..it's no wonder many early churches deemed these apocrophya as heresy. God did not allow Satan or his army to Kill humans.
He could do anything else, but that.
There are many other things in a few books that were considered Pagan ritual. Like the Angel Raphael telling Tobit's son that to ward off Demon's he must burn fish eyes.

These books stray so far from God's message, that it makes no sense to credit them. They very well may have been stories written by scribes, and have gotten mixed in with actual bilical scripture. We won't ever know,
but it matters not for a Christian, since the New Testament is what we follow in the modern day.

Thats nothing like gabriel sending the quran down, what is = to that is "prove the bible to be the one true word" you can't, why? because its faith. same thing with us.

But tbh i really dont have time to dispute i gtg now and finish off.

Exactly. So stop focusing on trying to dispute Christianity,
and worry about your own.
If you think the Qur'ran is God's word, then fine.
I'm not telling you to worship anything different.

I also didn't start debating your own beliefs until you made all these

"Qur'ran is right, Bible is wrong" threads.

link me up to this thread please, i must've forgotten about it?

it is very clear now

Ok, well I went through a lot of these threads,
and noticed that you didn't start Talking bad until people insulted Islam
So I will give you a pass on some of the claims and stuff you said about the bible. Honestly there is quite a bit, and I don't feel like multi quoting.

I do want to clear this up though.

Actually, the only ones mentioned as "Sons of God"
were Angels in both Old and NT.

God actually considered Israel as a whole "The Son of God"
But when referring to an individual, No one but Jesus was given this title.

When we look at most Greek,
Jesus is considered:"μονογενής, monogenēs" should be translated as "only begotten"

In The Hebrew:
"special son", "one-son-of-a-kind"

Another thing I want to point out..
Is that Muslims don't believe Christ was crucified..
Yet..let me quote you again.

Care to explain that?
Because Muslims don't believe Jesus was killed OR crucified.
They believe he was raised to Heaven by the father..