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Home › Forum › Main › General › Debate Fort › Best governing method

Best governing method

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Alen
Alen
Best governing method
Personally I believe something like an aristocratic democracy would work best, with only the smartest and brightest allowed to lead.

/discuss
#1 · 15y ago
Austin
[MPGH]Austin
i'd say communism or gtfo.
#2 · 15y ago
HannibalJr
HannibalJr
There's no Bright or Smart people..
#3 · 15y ago
EV
Evelyn
You and I have had long discussions on this topic.

And while, it may not sound "Equal" or "just" I'd have to agree with you Alen, A society in which only those who are .... Worthy for lack of a better term should hold any influence in what the government should do.

My "Ideal" form of government is Totalitarianism but since just the mention of that sends the average person into fear or hatred, I'd go with an Aristocratic Democracy type society as well, Based on Intellect, With A Limited "Cleansed" Population (Not on the basis of ethnicity but positive contribution to Humanity).
#4 · 15y ago
Zen
Zen
A socialist/ulitartian/direct democracy would work best in my opinion, with the educational system acting somewhat like it does now, giving an introduction into each field and the subgenres, finding what people do best at, having them go down that path. ill explain more later, dont have enough time now.
#5 · 15y ago
Alen
Alen
Quote Originally Posted by Evelyn View Post
You and I have had long discussions on this topic.

And while, it may not sound "Equal" or "just" I'd have to agree with you Alen, A society in which only those who are .... Worthy for lack of a better term should hold any influence in what the government should do.

My "Ideal" form of government is Totalitarianism but since just the mention of that sends the average person into fear or hatred, I'd go with an Aristocratic Democracy type society as well, Based on Intellect, With A Limited "Cleansed" Population (Not on the basis of ethnicity but positive contribution to Humanity).
Well in a world that is "just" those that are able to do more and contribute more to our progress (those that are smart, knowledgeable and hard working) should be given more rights than those that cannot.

And as far as totalitarian systems go ... how exactly would you choose the leader? I doubt you'll find someone who will be able to lead by himself and only work for the common good
#6 · 15y ago
marcusalier
marcusalier
EVERYONE IS SMART! EVERYONE IS EQUAL! EVERYONE IS EVERYONE AND EVERYONE IS YOU!
#7 · 15y ago
Alen
Alen
Quote Originally Posted by marcusalier View Post
EVERYONE IS SMART! EVERYONE IS EQUAL! EVERYONE IS EVERYONE AND EVERYONE IS YOU!
And then you end up giving homeless people with no education or knowledge the responsibility of choosing what's best for the country? No thank you
#8 · 15y ago
tdct
tdct
no, that would fail, the intellectual would give themselves too much power, and eventually the ordinary would be like the untouchables in China.
#9 · 15y ago
Zen
Zen
ok...ive been thinking at this weirdly, sugar fucks with me too mcuh i need to stick to just caffiene but i digress...

I believe, that a republic is a good substituion for a direct democracy on a large scale, as long as there are checks and balances (which we have) AND an IQ/Common Sense test done having a minimum IQ to become president/elected official, or some kinda test....also i believe for the economic side, socialism, like canada would be best...you get the benefiets of capatilism and the benefiets of communism

really dumbed down view, im mad tired but there ya go
#10 · 15y ago
Alen
Alen
Quote Originally Posted by tdct View Post
no, that would fail, the intellectual would give themselves too much power, and eventually the ordinary would be like the untouchables in China.
Every system has it's flaws. I'm ofc assuming that the people leading are smart enough to know that what they're doing should be done for the future of the country. But even if they aren't, the only difference would be that instead of powerful people being picked by the uneducated they'll be picked by the intelligent, hard working and resourceful people.

Quote Originally Posted by Zen View Post
ok...ive been thinking at this weirdly, sugar fucks with me too mcuh i need to stick to just caffiene but i digress...

I believe, that a republic is a good substituion for a direct democracy on a large scale, as long as there are checks and balances (which we have) AND an IQ/Common Sense test done having a minimum IQ to become president/elected official, or some kinda test....also i believe for the economic side, socialism, like canada would be best...you get the benefiets of capatilism and the benefiets of communism

really dumbed down view, im mad tired but there ya go
The problem with any form of communism is that it will only work in a perfect utopian world where there is no need for progress and where everyone is satisfied ... but that's kinda beside the point.
#11 · 15y ago
Zen
Zen
Im not saying full out communism, on paper communism would be the Ideal form of ECONOMIC gov't (major misconception is that communism is a form of gov't, it can be incorporated into any type of gov't)

The problem i see with current communist countries is that they have kept a money, in theory in a communist society you would have no need for money...

if you look at canada and other countries form of socialism it works quite nicely, in canada its practically next to nothing to go to college...in the USA its between 30-50k a year to go to a good college. in canada it is truely about the intelligence of the people because its not just who can afford it, who cant.
#12 · 15y ago
666HiddenMaster666
666HiddenMaster666
Dictator + Democracy
USA = Democracy = Falling apart because of loopholes
Dictator + Democracy = Control over the god damned Senate/HoR to force them to make all decisions
#13 · 15y ago
tdct
tdct
Quote Originally Posted by Coeus View Post


Every system has it's flaws. I'm ofc assuming that the people leading are smart enough to know that what they're doing should be done for the future of the country. But even if they aren't, the only difference would be that instead of powerful people being picked by the uneducated they'll be picked by the intelligent, hard working and resourceful people.



The problem with any form of communism is that it will only work in a perfect utopian world where there is no need for progress and where everyone is satisfied ... but that's kinda beside the point.
I was assuming they would be smart enough to be selfish
#14 · 15y ago
Alen
Alen
Quote Originally Posted by tdct View Post
I was assuming they would be smart enough to be selfish
Intelligence has nothing to do with moral values
#15 · 15y ago
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