that real nice..... i sometimes do that and wen it turns out good i awlays forget to make a tut coz im lazy. sometimes its easiest and best to simplyn use some easy effects to make a sig rather than complicated shit.... ill try it but use a few of my little tricks and see how it goes.... reading it properly, i now realise, thats very simple and i actually know most of what yo uare doing and ive used it before, such as using smudged duplicates on heavy blends but no the style u did, but i have used that text reflection heaps before. nice mix of ideas there. posting outcome soon. just adding my personal standoff'nish to it